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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: wowario on Jun 23, 2020, 04:00 PM

Title: Mining ⛏️
Post by: wowario on Jun 23, 2020, 04:00 PM
Discussion thread about mining cryptocurrencies, particularly Monero (XMR) and Wownero (WOW).
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jun 23, 2020, 04:03 PM
\>he doesn't use a 200W box fan to cool down his miners

it's almost as if you don't want to be a pro
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: dyslexia_daz on Jun 23, 2020, 04:04 PM
if u a pro whatelse can u learn.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: dsc on Jun 23, 2020, 04:39 PM
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Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mantenna on Aug 03, 2020, 05:29 AM
Hey,

very new to  mining! How do I start the wownero miner??? Downlaoded it, but.... I'm a mining noob :)
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Aug 03, 2020, 07:53 AM
Which miner did you download?

If you want to solo mine, you can just type `start_mining ` (e.g. `start_mining 4` for 4 cores) into the wallet CLI to start mining.

If you want to mine in a pool, you need to download XMRig](https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/releases/latest) and pick a pool ([HashVault](https://wownero.hashvault.pro) and [wowne.ro (https://wowne.ro)%20are%20good%20choices%20:slight_smile:) and download. The pools usually have a getting started guide, but the short answer is that you need to paste the pool's address and your Wownero wallet address into the `config.json` file.

Also remember that you only get paid a little while after a miner on the pool finds a block, so don't expect anything to show up in your wallet instantly
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mantenna on Aug 03, 2020, 08:41 AM
Hi  asymptotically,

Many thanks for the fast reply. This helps a lot. Downloaded 3 files directly from wownero homepage. Thought this was the miner :) I will try it with the wallet now.

Many thanks again.

Brgds Philipp
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Aug 03, 2020, 09:09 AM
Good luck solo mining! It's great because it keeps the network decentralised, but if you're a small miner (only a few Kh/s) it can take a long time before you see any rewards.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mantenna on Aug 03, 2020, 09:16 AM
Yes I will also have a look at the pools - sounds interesting too :slight_smile:
thanks again for the tip!
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Aug 04, 2020, 02:16 PM
skypool.org has found 70 of the last 100 blocks. not good!
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Aug 08, 2020, 03:12 PM
44 of the last 100 blocks were found by a pool unknown to miningpoolstats.stream
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: herominers on Aug 28, 2020, 06:36 AM
Another options for mining

**Windows**
download XMRig v6.2.2+ (https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/releases)

Example **start.cmd**
```
@echo off
xmrig.exe --donate-level 1 -o wownero.herominers.com:10661 -u YOUR_WALLET_ADDRESS -p YOUR_WORKER_NAME -a rx/wow -k
pause
```


**Linux**
Install XMRig v6.2.2+ with these commands.
    sudo apt-get install git build-essential cmake libuv1-dev libssl-dev libhwloc-dev
    git clone https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig.git
    mkdir xmrig/build && cd xmrig/build
    cmake ..
    make -j$(nproc)

xmrig will now be located in `/home/youruser/xmrig/build/bin`
then start mining

```
./xmrig --donate-level 1 -o wownero.herominers.com:10661 -u YOUR_WALLET_ADDRESS -p YOUR_WORKER_NAME -a rx/wow -k
```
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: GX35 on Dec 27, 2020, 01:14 PM
Brand new to all of this and want to start mining.  What should I be looking for when building my PC for this purpose? I have a couple of old PC laying g around but have outdated operating systems on them and run extremely slow . Hell I don't even know if they turn on anymore lol I have become too dependent on my phone in recent years
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: pendragonj on Dec 28, 2020, 02:52 AM
I'm in the same spot bud. DM for memes and we can help each other if no one else replies in time hahahaha
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: herominers on Dec 28, 2020, 07:45 AM
How to mine Wownero? Just watch this video.

https://youtu.be/whVuL1uE7UY
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: squishee on Dec 28, 2020, 01:03 PM
revive an old machine xubuntu pretty light and user easy. xmrig just one step past that. even if it wont hash good u keep ur tendies warm
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Dec 30, 2020, 09:04 AM
If you're building a new PC, you want a shiny new Ryzen processor (like a 3900X) and some fast low latency RAM. You can definitely try it out on your old PC, but don't expect much.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 02, 2021, 03:24 PM
Hello :slight_smile:
Now I got that of course.
Now situated in Central Europe - is it important to choose a local Mining Pool.
And mining with a 4 or 6 cores workstation - do you recommend mining on a pool or alone?

Thanks a lot so far.
B
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: herominers on Jan 02, 2021, 03:37 PM
Hello @mint

I recommend mining in the pool. You can choose the Germany server.

https://wownero.herominers.com/#how-to-mine-wownero-wow
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 02, 2021, 03:51 PM
Great. Got that.

Now on the hasvault pro POOL they offer German hosts, labeled with a "Starting Diffculty", let's say "60 000". I choose a higher midle or lower rate?
What does it mean?

Thx again!
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 02, 2021, 04:48 PM
Hello Again,

now I am looking for **some little tweaks** how to optimize my mining processes a bit.
* DO I need to do anything on my machine to enable **hugepages** (other than setting it true in the config?)
* Do I need to **upgrade RAM**, having 16GB?
* I choose a lightweight OS like alpine linux, or maybe funtoo. Does it matter actually??
* ...

Hey, I'm curious how you your mining and what machines you re using/recommending.

All the best,
Hope XMR and its friends is going up a lot!

Peace!
B
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jan 02, 2021, 05:26 PM
Quote from: "mint, post:20, topic:20", labeled with a "Starting Diffculty", let's say "60 000". I choose a higher midle or lower rate?
What does it mean?

It's the difficulty of the first jobs when you join the pool. It doesn't matter because the pool will automatically adjust the difficulty after you've started mining.

Also the difficulty (of jobs from the pool) doesn't affect your payout in any way, just how often you send messages to the pool.

Quote from: "mint, post:21, topic:20"DO I need to do anything on my machine to enable **hugepages** (other than setting it true in the config?)

It depends on the CPU. If you run XMRig as root it can decide on other tweaks too, such as disabling the instruction prefetcher.

Quote from: "mint, post:21, topic:20"Do I need to **upgrade RAM**, having 16GB?

Capacity isn't important, so long as you have at least 2G per NUMA node (+ a little more per thread, and for overhead of operating system etc.). Speed and latency is important though, if you're chasing high performance.

Quote from: "mint, post:21, topic:20"I choose a lightweight OS like alpine linux, or maybe funtoo. Does it matter actually??

No it doesn't matter at all :slight_smile:

Quote from: "mint, post:21, topic:20"Hey, I'm curious how you your mining and what machines you re using/recommending.

imo new Ryzen machines with fast memory are the way to go.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 02, 2021, 11:34 PM
> No it doesn't matter at all :slight_smile:

DAMN! But it's fun going lightweight! ^^

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 11, 2021, 09:54 PM
Thanks for this helpful Tipp, Herominers. Now there seems to be another pool that you are suggesting..

**I have got a question in general about mining**. Amateur mining. At least that's what I have to call myself regarding my earnings..

now, with my workstation PC I get the results as in the picture. Now I don't understand this CURRENT EFFORT value. When my Machine is not working to capacity, is it usful to have it mining on two pools at the same time?
Or what to do with the stats as shown in the picture? I'm at hashvault.pro

Thanks,
Mr Bo


(http://forum.wownero.com/custom_avatar/f521d00fbbe45616962379859a9a9abc5dd0afc4.png)
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 11, 2021, 09:55 PM
PS:
Plus, who is better off mining SOLO?
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: NicolasvanSaberhagen on Jan 12, 2021, 01:23 PM
Sort of interested in the difference between RandomX and RandomWOW hashrates. My Intel CPUs have almost a 50% higher rate with RandomWOW (4690k cpu) vs my Ryzen 7 only bumps up 5% (3950x cpu). Any ideas why Intel CPUs have such a huge bonus on RandomX?
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jan 12, 2021, 02:47 PM
RandomX needs 2M of L3 cache per mining thread to run quickly. Your 4690K has 6M of L3 cache and 4 threads, so when mining with RandomX it can only use three threads before things start falling out of the cache. (Although I suppose that doesn't explain why the difference is 50% and not 25% :stuck_out_tongue:)

Your 3950X can already mine with all 32 threads on RandomX since it has 64M of L3 cache. The lesser requirements of RandomX aren't really helping it out since it wasn't bottlenecked by cache.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 12, 2021, 11:02 PM
What's the "Current Effort" value then? :slight_smile:
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jan 13, 2021, 09:58 AM
It is expected (but far from guaranteed) that the pool will find a block before it reaches 100% effort. It's not too meaningful and you might as well ignore it.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 13, 2021, 11:02 PM
Hi - it's me again.
I'm making progress ;-)

**Question**: Why is HUGEpages 1 Gig not available?
How do I set the value correct?

**My output:**

> sysctl -a | grep hugep
> sysctl: error reading key 'net.ipv6.conf.all.stable_secret': I/O error
> sysctl: error reading key 'net.ipv6.conf.default.stable_secret': I/O error
> sysctl: error reading key 'net.ipv6.conf.eth0.stable_secret': I/O error
> sysctl: error reading key 'net.ipv6.conf.lo.stable_secret': I/O error
> vm.nr_hugepages = 2349
> vm.nr_hugepages_mempolicy = 2349
> vm.nr_overcommit_hugepages = 0

*** and in xmrig ***

> ABOUT        XMRig/6.7.0 gcc/9.3.0
>  * LIBS         libuv/1.38.1 OpenSSL/1.1.1i hwloc/2.2.0
>  * HUGE PAGES   supported
>  * 1GB PAGES    unavailable
>  * CPU          Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1280 V2 @ 3.60GHz (1) 64-bit AES
>                 L2:1.0 MB L3:8.0 MB 4C/8T NUMA:1
>  * MEMORY       3.2/15.6 GB (21%)
>  * DONATE       1%
>  * ASSEMBLY     auto:intel
>  * POOL #1      pool.hashvault.pro:3333 algo auto
>  * COMMANDS     hashrate, pause, resume, results, connection
>  * OPENCL       disabled
>  * CUDA         disabled
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: NicolasvanSaberhagen on Jan 14, 2021, 06:46 PM
Be aware that 1GB pages is only 1-2% increase in hashrate
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: mint on Jan 15, 2021, 12:59 AM
alright. Thanks Nicolas - it's overated, so to say *haha*
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: doc on Jan 22, 2021, 01:23 PM
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Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: akaolly on Jan 25, 2021, 09:53 PM
Hi noob here i like your coin and have been mining with srbminer but want to use xmrig ive sorted the config and got it running but its saying to activate msr mod and ive gone round in circles for 2 days trying some things people said online but cant get it activated? any help appreciated and thanks in advance,
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jan 26, 2021, 11:55 AM
Which operating system are you using? On Debian based systems (like Ubuntu) you can just install msr-tools with `sudo apt install msr-tools`, load the kernel module with `modprobe msr`, and then if you run XMRig as root with sudo, it can apply the MSR tweaks itself.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: NicolasvanSaberhagen on Jan 31, 2021, 03:50 AM
FWIW I installed Ubuntu 20 LTS and just compiled and ran XMRig without installing any msr mod stuff and it works fine. So I don't think most people have to do that.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jan 31, 2021, 09:06 AM
Yes, it will work fine without the MSR tweaks and huge pages. But you're leaving performance (free money) on the table
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: NicolasvanSaberhagen on Jan 31, 2021, 02:46 PM
I quit my Ubuntu 20 LTS miner, installed the msr tweak like you described, and reran the miner, and the hashrate went up by 0.044%. Sort of interesting.
Title: Re: Mining ⛏️
Post by: asymptotically on Jan 31, 2021, 02:58 PM
It could be that XMRig was already applying the tweaks (it tries to do so if you run it as root), or that it doesn't bother applying any tweaks to your CPU. .04% is too small.